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Be With Me
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What if you could spend your whole life as a Christian and miss the one thing Jesus made unmistakable? Pastor Kelly Kinder put that piercing question on the table in week three of our Discipleship Matters series with a message titled “Be With Me.” He reminded us that Jesus’ last words weren’t a suggestion or a specialty for the few; they were a clear command: as you are going, make disciples. Not merely attend, admire, or consume—but reproduce the life of Jesus in others.
Kelly traced a simple rhythm that runs through Jesus’ ministry: come and see, follow me, be with me. Come and see invites discovery—Is Jesus truly who he says he is? Follow me calls for imitation—learn to live, speak, and act like him. But “be with me” is the engine of transformation. That little phrase from Mark 3 is the heartbeat of the Great Commission, and it’s the part many of us quietly sideline. In Mark’s account, the crowds are swelling, power is on display, even demons are naming him Son of God. Then Jesus withdraws, goes up the mountain, calls those he desires, and “appointed twelve… so that they might be with him and he might send them out.” Kelly lingered over the wording. Most English translations say Jesus “appointed” twelve, but Mark’s verb literally reads “he made twelve.” It’s the same verb in Genesis 1 for God making the heavens and the earth. Jesus isn’t simply selecting from an existing pool; he is forming something that did not exist before—new men for a new mission—through relationship.
Discipleship is a relationship before it is a task, a who before a what. Kelly quoted James Edwards, who calls “to be with him” a phrase of atomic significance in Mark. Presence with Jesus becomes the way we forsake idols, honor the true God, and recover the image we were made for. It’s why, in Acts 4, leaders recognized Peter and John as uneducated and ordinary but were astonished—and then it clicked: they had been with Jesus. That is the mystery of transformation. You can study theology—and we should—but information alone can’t make you alive. Kelly even held up his old Systematic Theology tome and smiled: you can know about Jesus without knowing Jesus. Transformation is caught as much as it is taught; it is the transfer of Christ’s life into ours through proximity, time, and love.
Kelly’s own story made this tangible. As a high schooler, he joined a small group led by a college student named Jim. They met weekly for years. He can’t recite much of Jim’s content now, but he vividly remembers the love, presence, and steady investment. That time shifted him from nominal faith to a deeper identity in Christ. “Back then I didn’t like myself much,” he said. “I didn’t know who I was in Jesus. But being with him, through someone who walked closely with him, changed everything.” That’s how Jesus still does it—ordinary people who have been with him, helping others be with him too.
To show how Jesus shaped people, Kelly drew the circles we see in the Gospels: the crowds on the outside, the seventy-two, the twelve, the three, and at the center Jesus in union with the Father. Closer circles meant deeper access and sharper change. It wasn’t just physical proximity but relational availability. Some remained outsiders, even opponents. Others were insiders who learned Jesus himself—his mind, his ways, his love. The closer you get to the light, the more clearly you see; the farther you drift, the darker things become. This is why Jesus said to his disciples, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom.” There are things you only learn on the inside—things shared with those who come and stay.
To help us see how “being with” actually works, Kelly gave us two great images Jesus himself used. The first is the yoke. “Take my yoke upon you and learn from me,” Jesus says, “for I am gentle and lowly in heart.” A yoke sounds like weight, but in Jesus’ hands it becomes a way to stay attached to a strong, trained companion. In the ancient world a young ox was yoked to a seasoned one to learn the gait, the pull, the pace. Kelly argued that Jesus isn’t the farmer shouting from a distance—he’s the experienced ox beside us, doing the work with us. Yoked to him, we shed un-Christlike reflexes, the way James and John were transformed from “Sons of Thunder” who wanted to call down fire into shepherds who would lay down their lives. We grow faith where fear once reigned, hearing his gracious rebuke, “O you of little faith,” not as scolding but as invitation to trust. We learn agape love, the kind that held truth and mercy together with the woman caught in adultery—neither condemning nor condoning, but restoring with “go and sin no more.” We bear fruit that lasts because his life is doing the heavy lifting through us. And we practice daily self-denial, watching him refuse lesser crowns for the cross that would give us life.
The second image is the vine. “Remain in me,” Jesus says, “and I will remain in you.” Kelly simplified the often-mystical word abide: stay. Don’t drift. Don’t detach. Being with Jesus is not a duty; it’s a living connection that brings a tangible encounter with the risen Lord. Kelly outlined four principles at work in this staying. Identity: he is the vine, we are branches, the Father is the gardener. Many followers wrestle with rejection and confusion because they’re not close enough to hear him say who they truly are. Consistency: remain when the sayings are hard. In John 6, many walked away, but Peter stayed because, “You have the words of eternal life.” Faith outlasts confusion; clarity comes from nearness. Dependency: “Apart from me you can do nothing.” Not little. Nothing. Obedience unlocks revelation, the way servants at a wedding saw water become wine because they did the small thing he asked—fill the jars. Sufficiency: he will bear fruit through you. When the disciples worried about bread after Jesus fed thousands, they didn’t understand the leftovers—the baskets were for the servers. Twelve baskets for twelve disciples. He was signaling, I will take care of you as you serve.
All of this leads to the outcome Kelly kept foregrounding: transformed hearts that transform lives. Jesus remodels people. He changes the interior world and the exterior habits. If you’ve never been changed, it’s time to get closer. Draw near to him, and he will draw near to you. That is not theory; it’s promise.
But Kelly refused to leave this in the realm of inspiration. Discipleship that stays in our heads rarely turns into a culture. So he offered a lightweight, Scripture-first practice anyone can start: a “small circle.” The pattern comes right from Jesus’ early days. He found Andrew, Andrew found Peter. He found Philip, Philip found Nathanael. One finds one who finds one—and something living begins. In a small circle, you invite one person, and ask them to invite one more, forming a group of three. For sixteen weeks, you journey through the Gospel of Mark—one chapter a week. Read it daily if you can. Let the Word set the agenda. Pray from the text. Capture one insight that stands out. Write one concrete application you will do. Then meet briefly—twenty minutes on the phone or Zoom once a week—to share your prayer, your insight, your step of obedience, and to pray for one another. Once a month, add a face-to-face meal to deepen trust. At the end of sixteen weeks, multiply. Each person invites a new one, who invites their one, and the process begins again.
It is intentionally simple. You don’t need a thick curriculum or specialized training. You need a Bible, a few friends, a plan you’ll actually keep, and a heart to pass on what Jesus is forming in you. Kelly called this the beliefs, behaviors, and conversations that reveal what truly matters to us—a disciple-making culture. It moves a church from consuming content to transferring life. It teaches us to think reproduction, because if it doesn’t multiply, it isn’t yet disciple making. And it keeps the focus where Jesus placed it: being with him so we can become like him and help others do the same.
Kelly did not minimize the current challenges or the cultural noise pressing on the church. But he pointed to the answer Jesus has always given: closeness. The closer you are to Christ, the clearer his mission becomes, the steadier your heart grows, and the more naturally his life flows through you to others. Inside the yoke, you learn his pace. In the vine, you draw his life. In the small circle, you practice the way of Jesus in community—under the Word, at the table, and in the street.
The question that opened the message closed it, too, but with an open door. What if you were a Christian all your life and never did the one thing Jesus asked you to do? You don’t have to miss it. In Discipleship Matters, Kelly is calling us back to the center: be with Jesus. Start small. Ask him for your one. Invite them to invite one. Read, pray, obey, share, and multiply. Over time, those circles will become a culture, and the culture will become a movement. And like the leaders in Acts, people will look at ordinary men and women and be astonished—not at our credentials, programs, or polish, but at the one thing that matters most. They will recognize that we have been with Jesus.